In this episode we take a look at the Underland effigy and temple build with Jim Beattie & Glenn Todd. Hosts Stevan, Jim, and Glenn discuss the art and community dynamics of the Underland effigy and temple builds from 2023 and 2024. They share engaging stories of their art projects, focusing on the creation and burning rituals of effigies and temples. Jim details his experience as the effigy build and design lead, highlighting his project 'Pobblebonk Effigy' while Glenn shares his insights into fire sculptures and his work with the Nautilus temple. The episode also covers topics like the importance of inclusive spaces, the historical significance of effigies and temples, and potential challenges when creating large-scale art burns. The conversation is enriched with discussions on the ideas of holding summer burns without actual burns and the need for a supportive community to facilitate these artistic expressions.